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I am looking for a 24" bmx.
Use: around streets... flatland freestyle... small jumps around streets...
not using it for park or trail...
going for 24" cos i am over 6 foot...
pretty tight budget so looking for something as close to $500 as possible...
any recommendations?
the 2 i have seen so far are:
2010 Avanti abd cruiser
and
freeagent devil24
starship303
07-09-10, 02:57 PM
So you're after a 24" BMX or a 24" MTB?
-- MTB wise --
NS Capital is one of the best 24" street MTBs around. They come as frame only, or there is the "Holy" which is basically the same frame but as a complete bike. Comes with a rigid fork, BMX cranks, rear disc brake. Strong, simple, reliable, and relatively light (~12kg).
Rhythm Imports (www.ribbed.com.au) sells NS Bikes and parts. Check out their price list here (http://www.ribbed.com.au/store/index.php/mega-sale/complete-bikes). They have some 2009 stock on special ($899 for a 2009 Holy 1 complete) but i understand if this is over your budget. There is a reason these are so popular though.
If you're not wanting to stretch your cash, perhaps going second hand is an option. Check out this forum or Rotorburn Forums (http://www.rotorburn.com/forums/forum.php) in the classifieds section. Many a bargin can always be had, and you could possibly find a great bike at around your budget. Its just the 24" choice may limit your options unfortunately (no i'm not going to start a 26" vs 24" argument LOL).
As mentioned, the Eastern Traildigger 24 is another option, though IMO the NS Holy is worth the extra couple hundred bucks for the higher quality frame, parts and more dialled geometry.
-- BMX wise --
Dunno, though the Freeagent may fit the bill nicely i guess.
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so whats the big diff between a 24" bmx and mtb?
i just know i want something for freestyle type stuff on flatland and small size jumps around the streets...
i had a mountain bike but am selling it cos it didnt fit the bill... especially cos the shocks soaked everything up... so i know for sure i dont want any shocks...
The difference between 24'' bmx and mtb is exactly that. The mtb is much closer to an mtb. It has mtb hub spacing, lower rise bars, higher forks, v or disc brake, they generally have lower overall feel over 24'' bmx's (or cruisers).
24'' bmx's are essentially bmx's with an extra 4'' added to the wheels and a few inches chopped off the height of the bars.
Most people think that cruisers aren't that great. They're generally used as exactly what the name suggests - cruising. If you want to seriously do tricks avoid them.
24'' mtb's are more trick friendly, theyre very popular for mtb street riding, and some people use them for DJ's.
To be honest I hate them. 24'' rarely feel as good as their 20 or 26'' counterparts. A 24'' isn't as nimble as a bmx and not as stable and jumpable as a 26''. On top of that, 24'' have a smaller effective cockpit size than a bmx. Because the toptubes are only an inch or so longer than a bmx's but the bars are 4-6'' lower they feel a lot smaller. If you really tuck up to bunny hop your knees can hit the bars.
I'm 6'5'' and ride a bmx. It has a 21'' top tube, which is quite short for my height, but I ride street so I need the shorter bike. It's a popular misconception that bmx's don't suit tall people, but they're much better than 24''. If you really want a bigger bike get a long 26'', short 26'' dj bikes suffer from the same issues as 24'' bike.
If you really are keen on a 24'' here's my pick:
Cruisers:
Sunday model C
Fit CR24
MTBs:
NS holy - very good bike - best stock 24'' bike out.
DMR rhythm - much more mtb oriented.
20''
You pretty much can't go wrong, so long as you buy from a specific bmx brand, not a bmx from a mtb company or eastern.
26''
Anything that doesn't look too rooted on rotorburn.
Commencal Maxmax - a bike designed to be upgraded as you get better.
Avanti Derelikt 1 cromo - this might slide in under you budget or be a tad over. It's a very nice beginners street bike.
I've spent a lot of time riding both 24 and 26'' traildiggers. The 24'' is the pick, but neither are very good. The geometry is very confused. Especially on the 26'' (who's ever heard of a 26'' cruiser?). They're really terrible bikes.
Your budget is difficult, but if I was you I would buy a bmx or a second hand 26'' mtb.
Also, what bike do you have now? If the suspension is too squishy you can easily fix that by taking to your local bike shop and getting them pulled apart and tuned. Or buying new forks.
basically i only said 24" bmx because i wasnt sure what to get for my needs and that is what a store recommended...
so i am open to what other people here suggest to suit my needs...
as i said, i will basically just be doing flatland type freestyle, jumping street gutters, and looking for other obstacles to navigate around the street... nothing too professional though...
the bike i bought a while ago was a specialized p1 all mountain... and even after adjusting the shocks (not lock off) i still find that i cant jump properly off gutters because it absorbs too much and then juts out... consequently it is difficult to even get the back wheel off the ground... so i figure i would prefer a rigid frame like my bmx when i was a kid, which i used to jump all over the place...
The P1 all mountain isn't to shabby. It's a fairly long - which could make it hard to do tricks etc. But if all your doing is jumping stuff you might be better off investing in that bike.
When you say flatland what exactly do you mean? Do you mean like hitch hiker kickflip flatland? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqCyTM1bF6Q) or 180 hops?
well im fairly new to all this so im open to learning anything... but the 180 hops look more like what id be up to so far...
i asked people about putting different forks on the p1 am but it looked like it was gonna cost a few hundred to get rigid forks... plus i also dont use the gears... i literally leave it in the middle and dont ever change them... i also got the bike with the intention of working my legs... so dont use the gears to make things easier...
and.... another thing i dont like is that the back derailer bangs about after landing...
hence i figure it was better to cut my losses... try to sell it and then get what i should have got in the first place...
so do you think a 26" would be better? i have seen 20" bmx's in the shop and they look really small and given that sometimes i do like to just roll around out in the sunshine, i might find i get a bit cramped up...
still looking for advice peeps...
starship303
09-09-10, 10:16 AM
Well as you already have some experience riding BMX's i would advise you try a rigid singlespeed 26" MTB. You may prefer the feel. They are generally more 'comfortable' than a BMX as they have a bit more built-in flex in the wheels and frame, and if the geometry is dialled they are normally a bit shorter {edit} in the cockpit (this is in reference to a 'street' frame - a 'dirt jump'/DJ frame is generally longer {edit}). A good rigid fork makes a BIG difference to the riding experience on 26" wheels, so definitely try to find a rigid setup to test ride.
Street MTB's are fun & easy to cruise around on, even for fairly long distances, but are still great for technical street riding (again, as long as the frame geometry is well sorted).
Check out my NS Suburban (link in my sig, below) for what i mean - i got this bike for basically cruising around, some commuting, as well as some technical street, and its been basically perfect!
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Lemontime
09-09-10, 10:35 AM
^^ Think you're a bit confused there.. Street frames are generally (read: SHOULD) shorter than their dirt jumping counterparts. Shorter frame = more maneuverable = easier tech tricks and stuff. Longer frame = more stable and easier to control in the air and at high speeds.
outside of the fact that this has shocks and i want rigid... is this the sort of sizing and geometry you are talking about - http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-au/bikes/mountain/2175/31851/
cos i know somewhere i can try it... they said the frame is 14.5" and wheel are 26"...
starship303
09-09-10, 01:11 PM
^^ Think you're a bit confused there.. Street frames are generally (read: SHOULD) shorter than their dirt jumping counterparts. Shorter frame = more maneuverable = easier tech tricks and stuff. Longer frame = more stable and easier to control in the air and at high speeds.
Ah, yeah that ^^. That'll teach me to be replying to threads and email at the same time.
outside of the fact that this has shocks and i want rigid... is this the sort of sizing and geometry you are talking about - http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-au/bikes/mountain/2175/31851/
cos i know somewhere i can try it... they said the frame is 14.5" and wheel are 26"...
outside of the fact that this has shocks and i want rigid... is this the sort of sizing and geometry you are talking about - http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-au/bikes/mountain/2175/31851/
cos i know somewhere i can try it... they said the frame is 14.5" and wheel are 26"...
I think you've just had a bad experience with suspension. A decent pair of forks are completely adjustable and don't take up all your efforts at jumping around.
I don't like the feel of rigid 26''. It's a lot harder on your wrists than bmx - because the front end of the bike tends to nose dive more. A lot of people disagree with me though. And something to look for when buying a rigid dj bike. Make sure the frame, forks and bars are ALL steel. One of those 3 will crack if its made of alloy.
The 14.5'' STP feels very different to the 13.5. The 13.5 is a lot easier to throw around and trick. Try to avoid the 14.5.
if i was to go standard (20") bmx then what other dimensions would i be going for given i am 6'2"? so that i fit the bike correctly?
Nats about 6'2" so whatever he advises.
Nats about 6'2" so whatever he advises.
6'4'' actually.. maybe 5''. :P
With bmx there is one basic frame size variable, that's top tube length.
I ride a 21'' which fits me perfect, however i almost exclusively ride street. If you were to do some djing etc. you'd be after something longer. So you're shopping in the 21-21.6'' area. Whatever you feel comfortable on.
The other two sizing areas to look out for are chainstays and bars.
Chainstay's make a huge difference in bike handling. A quarter of an inch will change the bike completely. Ride a few bikes and find something you're comfortable with.
Bars make a big difference to the handling and fit as well. I ride 8.25'' high 28.25'' wide bars and no spacers under the stem. The trend now is wide and high. I'm very comfortable with my bars. I never get a sore back. But I am shopping for higher bars to help with getting the front end up.
If you're buying a stock bike you won't get much of a say in bars or chainstays. Don't worry so much about chainstays. Bars you can change after you buy the bike for less than $100. Go have a ride of a few proper bmxs i.e. ones from bmx companies.
Where do you live? I'll let you know where your closest bmx shop is.
Lemontime
09-09-10, 04:33 PM
Nats gotta be 7 foot. That bastard is bloody giant.
Where do you live? I'll let you know where your closest bmx shop is.
im in SA.
You're just as tall harry! How long was your tierra?
South Australia only has one dedicated bmx shop! Little black bike (http://www.littleblackbike.com.au/) was recently opened, if you're not in Adelaide you might struggle to test a range of bikes.
what about a Mike Aitken Signature 2010? would that be good for someone 6'2"?
lone-rider
14-09-10, 05:36 PM
http://www.sundaybikes.com/v3/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/interbike-2009-sunday-booth-0602.jpg
2010 Black is amazing.
is the Mike Aitken Signature 2010 lower then a usual 21"TT? was reading stuff that says it is long and low...
okay well i went and tried out sitting on a standard bmx with i think 20.75" TT and decided it wasnt gonna work for me and my height... not trying to be too difficult but i want to be able to jump and hit tricks but i also want to be able to just cruise on it a bit and my knees would almost be hitting my chin when the pedal was at the top given how close it is to the seat!
so im now thinking about trying the 24" MTB... would that be much better in that regard?
thinking about the NS Holy... unfortunately i wouldnt be able to test ride it though...
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