Road bike wheelsets

[aussieidiot]

Since the Aussie dollar is such a champion at the moment, I'm looking at wheels for my Roubaix.

It currently has the Mavic CP22 laced to Specialized hubs.

Is it worth going to Ultegra wheets $400 Delivered with CRC(a 1mm spacer is required for a 10 speed cassette) or jump up to Dura Ace at $750 Delivered.

[milkman]

Apart from the hubs the RS80 and DA (WH-7850/24mm) are identical. Value-wise I'd go RS80.

[orphic]

The RS80's are pretty nice. I have a set on my roadie and they feel great and are nice and light.

I too had the choice between the RS80 and the 7850, and went with the RS80 as I would prefer to save the cash and splash out on some race wheels one day. As it happens I'm not racing much on the road at the moment, so I'll hold off on that anyway.

If I was going to spend a bit of extra cash on training wheels I would probably forget about the DA's and get some TWE wheels built. But at the time I bought mine I wanted to spend as little as possible and the RS80's where the best value for money.

I did find that out of the box the bearings where a bit tight and needed to be backed off. Apparently this is rather common with Shimano wheels.

[aussieidiot]

Hmmm. Thanks for that Milkman and Orphic.

Looking around, the RS80's fall into a better price for me and they have the Dura Ace rims with Ultegra hubs.

I do like them....... now some thinking music........

[TOU93]

Here is some thinking music...

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[aussieidiot]

Tou, that video has been blocked in Australia.

I guess I'll stick with the fantastic melodies of Car Town.

[TOU93]

bahhh well that's stupid.. It was Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse Of The Heart anyways.

[ido09s]

Blayne, give Greg at TWE a call and see what he can do. You may be surprised

[aussieidiot]

Do I drop your name?

[orphic]

Greg does a great job on wheels. My track wheels are awesome, and I know a few people that have some road wheels he made and they are just as awesome.

He's good to loyal customers apparently, so when you go back and get a second set of wheels you get a good discount. I'm yet to do that, kind of wish I did instead of buying the RS80's. It's good to support local business.

[ido09s]

Tell him i sent you. He may not know me but mentioning the 29er wheels he built for me may help

[wilko]

open pro's on ultegra hubs. can't go wrong.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mavic-Open-Pro-Black-32H-Shimano-Ultegra-Hubset-/140350530931?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20ad8b2573

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ultegra-6700-Mavic-Open-Pro-700c-36H-Road-Bike-Wheelset-/200528192211?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eb06962d3

[lone-rider]

+1 I have the Ultegras to Open Pros from Bicycle Wheel Guy.

[aussieidiot]

Geez they are heavy though.
For the same price i can get the full Ultegra wheel and save 300g.

I tried to call Greg but the phone was off.

I'll try later.

After googling alot of wheels. the RS80's do seem to be a very good wheel for the money. They lose point on the bling factor but thats it. Study enough for everyday and light enough to spin up like full carbon wheels.

[lone-rider]

ukalipt has RS80s

Open Pros are bomb proof.

Open Pros are good enough for Rapha, they are good enough for me :)
http://www.rapha.cc/bikes

[ido09s]

If you really wanted to investigate TWE send Greg a text, he prefers them to phone calls as he can call back when he has finished building a wheel

[crank]

DA 7850 now come in a TL version so you can run tubeless, same as the 6700 Ultegra wheels. Very handy if you get a lot of flats.

[DaveoAU]

Have you got any experience with tubeless on the road Grant? Got a set of Fulcrum 1's on the way and I'm keen to go down the tubeless route but don't know anyone who's done it yet.

[crank]

Yeah I've been really happy with the Ultegra wheels running Hutchinson Fusion 3 tyres. The tyres feel just as nice as the Michelin Pro3 Race tyres I have on the 7850 CL wheels. Puncture resistance is excellent. Where I had to run Maxxis Re-Fuse tyres with tyre liners and $5 tubes at 120psi to minimise punctures, I now just run some Stans sealant in the tyres at 90-100psi. More comfortable on the rough roads. I originally used the Hutchinson sealant and while it worked, only losing 15psi over about 30km, it never quite dried in the 5mm cut properly. So I patched the tyre on the inside and put Stans in. I haven't ridden it heaps, but about 1000km on and no punctures and very little sign of wear on the rear and nothing on the front.

Before going tubeless I destroyed a set of Continental GP4000S tyres in less than 200km. Was getting a lot of punctures just running Re-Fuses and still getting the odd puncture with tyre liners. The Contis just cut up too easy, which is why they obviously aren't a commuting tyre!. The punctures with the Re-Fuses and liners was always from small pieces of wire like that from the belt of truck tyres.

[DaveoAU]

Thanks for that. I use Re-Fuses at the moment on my current wheels and same deal, punctures always seem to be pieces of wire. I'll be keeping these wheels for the crap roads around here and using the new wheels for smoother stuff anyway, so I'll give the Hutchinsons a go.

[ukalipt]

i run RS80's.
i should have called TWE for sure and compared a price for build up and weight

after around 3000 km i have just put them in for there first truing up.
the front was running still almost dead straight - no issues.
the rear was not the same. it had a descent kick in it and about three weeks
ago i discovered 3 of the bladed spokes on the non-drive side had spun around
meaning they were no longer in the right blade facing position.
i guess they have done a lot of riding so it is to be expected.

the nipples had to be fully loosened off to allow the pull spokes enough slack
to spin them back around to the correct edge facing position.

i still love these wheels. it probably has more to do with the weight loss from
my old wheels. [ i dropped around 700grams in total including tubes and tyres]
but i still find them much stiffer than my old aksiums.

after much online research i couldn't justify the extra cost for 100gram weight difference
between the RS80's and Dura Ace wheelset.

[aussieidiot]

Newbie question:
When you buy a set of RS80's or other Shimano wheels as a wheelset, do they come with a set of wheel bags?

I realise if a LBS is selling a set that a customer has pulled off to upgrade this won't be the case.

[noodleman]

when i brought shimano DA wheels it came with wheel bags

[ukalipt]

mine didn't come with bags. they were from CRC

[noodleman]

i got mine from wiggle and came with bags

[Cephas]

DA 7850 now come in a TL version so you can run tubeless, same as the 6700 Ultegra wheels. Very handy if you get a lot of flats.

I've got these on my TCR.
Haven't gone tubeless yet, but the wheels are very light and the carbon is pretty.

[Lorday]

Salsa Delgado rims on surly hubs. Look great, Buttery smooth, and ultra durable.

Downsides: wouldn't use anything less than a 25c tire, Not super dooper light and may not run gears.

[Tokyo Drifter]

except delgado rims weigh 515g an end and surly hubs are just generic sealed cartridge thingos, and they don't come run gears.

There is more to a set of road wheels than weight. Weight is a factor, but only one.

Shimano make a very good wheel, very hard to beat on a cost/weight basis. Surprisingly aero, and pretty stiff. Problem with low spoke count wheels is that the rim is heavy. The only thing worse than a heavy rim is heavy tyres.

Handbuilt wheels are good stuff. TWE seems to be popular. I'd give him a call if I was in your situation.

I have a set of DT swiss 240s hubs laced (28h radial/32h 3x) to DT rims (R415 front, R465 rear) with aerolite spokes and alloy nipples. They weigh 1470g actual, are wonderfully stiff, everything is replacable if I come crack a rim on a pothole or whatever, and the hubs must have perpetual motion devices inside they are that smooth. About $750 for the pair at bargain hunter prices.

Open Pro/Ultegra/Comps survive a nuclear winter, along with cockroaches and keith richards. Not light at around 1900g, but a lot of that is in the hubs and ~60g can be shedded by going to alloy nipples. Think of it more like a 1750g set of wheels that are durable as f*#k, very stiff and with very nice (but heavy) hubs.

[Lorday]

Meh. I'd run them on a light xc rig if I didn't destroy wheels.

[a.davis12]

Shimano make a very good wheel, very hard to beat on a cost/weight basis. Surprisingly aero, and pretty stiff. Problem with low spoke count wheels is that the rim is heavy. The only thing worse than a heavy rim is heavy tyres.



the carbon laminate rim is stupid light though. = win.

get the rs80s. my DAs are excellent.

[aussieidiot]

I have bought the RS-80's.

With the rims, Ultegra cassette, and Rubino pro tyres, I have shaved 660g of the bike.

First ride on the weekend, and it feels like I'm riding nothing. the bike feels so much lighter to pedal. I was a little concerned about not using a tool to tighten the cassette properly, so I didn't get out of the saddle for a good hard push.

Very happy and impressed with this setup.

Thanks guys for the recommendation. :D